All this worthless terror organization is going to do is cause us the taxpayers of this ALREADY over taxed state to pay MILLIONS in B.S. legal costs........

I really wonder what the ACLU thinks it is doing, it never does anything for the middle class, WE ARE THE DOWNTRODDEN, they are the CRIMINALS

CHECK THE JAILS AROUND THE WORLD ACLU

THEN GET BACK TO ME ABOUT HOW BAD INMATES HAVE IT IN CT

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this is akin to yale lawyers helping ILLEGAL ALIENS

they are not undocumented workers, what BS that is, they are WHAT THEY ARE......ILLEGAL

you and the ACLU give Liberals a bad name, you are wacked

Oh wonderful news? The ACLU takes on and takes care of those that want a free ride!

well, when i took civics there were 3 branches of government, executive, legeslative, and judicial...we've seen what the executive branch has done, not much...the legeslative branch, just talked, but rightfully so, now with out action from the first two branches, let's see what the Judicial branch can do...they also have the public's best interest in mind...

Joining Nero`s Band anyone.Ladeda!~Peace Glenna~

HELLOOOO!!! If they didn't committ a crime they wouldn't be in JAIL!! am I missing something here? I'm sick of low lifes who cannot be a contributing member of society demanding "rights"!! They break into our homes, steal our belongings that we work hard for, they rape our daughters, kill our sons and they are griping about conditions?? No pity from me!! I'll pray for their souls... they'll need it when they meet their maker!!

well, we could put the over croweed population on a giant iceberg, you know, the ones the size of rhode island, with enough food and water for say 6 months...by then the berg would be the size of your back yard...kidding...but there are some of you out there that would endorse the idea...

The ACLU works for Satan.

ANANYOMOUS,Can you define Satan,so the FBI has a decription.~Peace Glenna~

Oh YAY, more rights for the criminals, and more of our tax dollars being wasted. I'm disgusted!

Governor Rell did the only logical thing awhile back via her parole ban action. She recognized that SOME who shouldn't be paroled, were being paroled. The parole system (among others) was clearly broken. To better protect the public ... she did what had to be done.

The results of her action partly caused another problem ... that of prison overcrowding. The parole system problem(s) won't be fixed overnight ... it will take time, probably lots of time to address the issues.

So here we are. A short term "fix" is to ship those incarcerated outside the state to other prisons. Screw the whining families that say this is unfair. Those in jail are there because they f'ed up. It's now the State's decision and option for what to do with them. Maybe some of the hardened and repeat criminals should be shipped down to Gitmo, or some other 3rd world country. We subcontract practically everything else out of the U.S. Why not the dregs of our society too.

I say we ship them all over to iraq let them earn there keep since they get 3 hot's and a cot at the ct taxpayer's expense,put them to war and bring our guy's HOME.

A law suit against the state? Who are they going to sue? The criminals for commiting crimes? Thats it , lets sue the criminals for going to jail. Oh thats right they stole money which means they have none. YOu can't get blood from a stone. Who runs this joint anyway? EXECUTE THREE TIME FELONS!

If the death penalty is not a deterrant nothing will be. The only way to keep repeat offenders from commiting more crimes is to execute them. This equals more jail space and fewer criminals. Good Idea huh!

Exactly what constitutes overcrowding? 2 criminals in a cell instead of one? These criminals have enough coddling. Why is the ACLU ALWAYS on the wrong side of the issue?

Why can't we take the inmates and have them on a chain gang working 12 hour shifts each? That would open up bed space for the little whiners, and they could get some of the road construction done.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio (sp?) of Arizona. Now there's a man who knows how to run a jail. The bleeding hearts should listen to him.

"I really wonder what the ACLU thinks it is doing, it never does anything for the middle class"

INDEED....it's because most of them are a bunch of over-priveledged whiners, who are mostly sheltered from the ill effects of criminals and illegal aliens. I'd guess than a number of them live within gated/protected communities etc....

Just like the YALE idiots coming to the defense of ILLEGALS...it made me absolutely SICK....Easy to be so "generous" when the ill effects don't impact you.....

OK from the top. John C. They are not a terrorist org. They defend the constitution. Checks and balances friend. We need them. Robin Hood. Yale lawyers did pro bono work for the Amistad slaves too, practice, challenge, I don't know. Kim. Sending them to Iraq as laborers is not a bad idea, couldn't do any worse than our contractors have! Can't have them build roads in CT, the unions wouldn't have it. Lastly, to everyone who wants the ACLU to do something for the middle class...do it yourselves! Vote you dopes!

The beauty of the ACLU is that they went to bat for Rush Limbaugh, who regularly blasts them, in fighting the State of Florida and/or the Feds (I forget the exact details) to keep his medical records private as they should be.

They get a bad rap because of the sensational cases. They are just one group of people who doggedly push against the forces who erode civil liberties, and against those who would weaken our Bill of Rights. And yes, they push the boundarries and fight for the rights of people who themselves are deemed obnoxious such as prisoners, as well as those who say what is obnoxious, whether they are are hate groups, or people fighting against political correctness. Yes, that's right, the big bad liberal ACLU fight hard for people to be politically incorrect! Veritable boogeymen!

Like it or not, prisoners have rights. Even very conservative Supreme Courts have said so. When the state takes total control over a prisoner's existence, they have an obligation to treat them humanely. That includes protecting their health and safety.

And let's not forget, people, like Mark Davis has pointed out... this issue is also about protecting the corrections officers. The more overcrowding, the higher, exponentially, the danger to them. How about THEIR rights to a safe work environment??

Mike,

I agree with all of your points, except sending prisoners to Iraq. Our troops deserve someone honorable watching their backs and otherwise providing support. Neither prisoners nor hired guns hopped up on drugs (contractors) are acceptable, IMO.

It's about time the ACLU step in,.... to do there job. I know that people commit crimes and we are a county that lives on giving second chances (Martha Steward) to turn there lives around. You never know what's around the cornor, you could be in the same boat like the people in prison are in right now. So before we start saying send the criminal over sea's or but them on an ice berg you should think what if it was your love one who was stuck in prison, you would want to get them out as well. Of course our parole system isn't the best and trust parole do there job we are blaming parole for everything but it starts with the court system who give these criminal a light sentence because they know they will be coming back, it's about making money.

MIKE-----The ACLU DESTROYS the constitution...they are underemining this country....they ARE terroists........

It surprises me that every one of you want the criminals to stay around. We allready have too many people on this planet, we need to remove a bunch. Who better than three time felons? People who have shown that they cannot adjust to good living and still commit felonies. The system is cruel and unusual punishment for the good guys like us. Do you want a three time felon in your backyard? Not me. EXECUTE WITHOUT MERCY!

Ms nicole...exactly (and i hope your a red sox fan too) ...anybody, innocent or guilty could end up in prison...our criminal justice system is designed as to let the innocent, (and perhaps a few guilties go too) as to locking up all the guilties and some innocent people... a wise choice in a civilized democracy/republic as Connecticut...Go red sox!!!

John, John, John,

How can you defend the constitution and say that an alternative view point is wrong? The ACLU takes on the most repulsive cases because some one must! I don't agree with all they do, but, they raise arguments that must be aired! That is what keeps democracy vital.

P.S. Jill K, I still think cheap lbor in Iraq is a good idea.

Mike Mike Mike.......what a crock of garbage............lol

Mark, if you didnt report on the overcrowding story to begin with, we wouldnt be having this blog. And now you are reporting that the ACLU could announce a law suit against the state.
Thanks Mark, you brought it on.
I have no mercy for the criminals.
Next time report on something that people care about.

John,
I would love to sit across the table, between two beers, with you! We could have one hell of a good argument! Democracy ain't easy pal ya listen to a lot of .... before you find the truth.

I am a bourbon drinker....Wild Turkey to be exact......lol.........but its fun to spar , is it????????????? ;)

Yes it is John! Yes it is!

Hello Mr. Jeff, Yes I'm a red sox fan... It's so crazy how 2 people caused all these issues with the prison system. Gov. Rell put a stop on the parole system cause they had to have someone to blame. Now the ACLU is going to court and have all the inmates release, and it will happen.

I also don't think Mark brought this on by reporting a story,if he wouldn't report someone else would have.

I think a previous poster had it good, put them in a chain gang and put them to work for their supper......and their shower and and and...

CJP..our highways and the Merrit Pkw. need cleaning up from people tossing junk out their car windows, that would be an ideal job for them. I sure don't think I'd want them over with the troops, those poor folks need someone leveled headed help. :-)

I HAVE A SOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know those "WHITE COLLAR PRISONS" where they have tons of room?????????????????

hehe

NO MORE WHITE COLLAR PRISONS

INTEGRATE THE POOR SCUM WITH THE RICH SCUM I SAY, A CRIMINAL IS A CRIMINAL, I DO NOT SEE WHY WE MUST HAVE A SEPERATE HIGH CLASS PRISON THAT COSTS US BILLIONS MORE

do you??

what's the friggin difference between

"pass the grey Poupon"

&

"pass the friggin mustard"

most of those white collar criminals like Rowland could use a good rough house orgy

Work Crewa cleaning CT's roadways. Great idea until one of them escapes. Then why the hell are these vilolent offenders out cleaning the roadways? That would be the next blog. The State Of Connecticut DOC does not have the staff to oversee the prison population behind the walls nevermind the work crews. The answer is change the laws. Zero tolerance on 3 strikes. Forget the appeals for their convictions. Afterall 15 - 20 years for the appeals process. The Petits did have 15 - 20 minutes to live on their appeal!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe that in the short period since this disaster occurred, all of a sudden there is prison over crowding. I'm for doing away with all paroles and having convicts serve the complete sentence.
I hope (or maybe not) that the two low lifes who committed this heinous act are isolated from the rest of the prison inmates as they must be aware that they have little chance of parole because of the actions of the two of them.

Build More Prisons

ms nicole...rock on!!! but guys and gals...prison is not as easy as "lock them up and throw away the keys...all the time" hell, we have had a criminal justice system since the dawn of man kind, through out time man has used different types of punishment and guess what...we still have crime, even todays version of crusifiction (just look at the position of the offender when lethal injection is done, just like chirst) has/is not working...

I said it in the last blog and I'll say it again. Stop making prisons housing for the mentally ill and that will solve the problem. Reopen 2 of the three closed down state hospitals and that will take care of the problem. Blame the republicans for the over crowding, it was Regan who had the "bright" idea of deinstitutionalization. The death penalty is a crock, I do not believe that we have the right to decide who lives or dies, hell, no civilized country except the US has a death penalty law. It doesn't work. Study criminal justice a tad and you would understand.

I know this may not be a popular point of view,but I am going to go ahead with it anyway's. We would not have an overburden prison system if it wasn't being used to house the mentally ill. Since the closing of the state hospital the prisons have been used for this purpsose because there is no alternative. When you put the mentally ill in with the psychopaths (believe it or not there is a difference between psychopath and a person who is mentally ill)you are asking for trouble. We are asking the prison guards to provide mental health care to mentally ill inmates by giving them medication, observing them for potential harmful behavior, protect them from other inmates etc. Problem number 1 they are not trained to do this. Problem number 2 is there is no therapy in the prison to help get them to be able to function upon their release, there is no aftercare for any of the prisoners. Most parole officers and probation officers do the best they can with the resources available, but our tax dollars would be better spent on a state mental hospital with qualified staff. Day programs which include occupational therapy so when people are released there is follow up care. Some prisoners are never going to be helped that is a reality (hard to admit but true) but without proper evaluation (psychological, educational and occupational) nothing we do is going to change what is going on in our state. If we just lock them up and forget about them and what got them there in the first place we are just kidding ourselves.

Where does law suit play a part in makeing a better future,is this what motivated the decision to make changes,sounds like ill gotten gain,taking atvantage of the situation"oh lets sue everyone while we are changing the laws,because of Rowland who started and was responsible for the snow ball affect.Why the heck does everyone have to sue.Does ACLU mean all citizins or are the pickey about the colour of someones skin?,they can get my brother out while they are pussyfooting around waiting for a chance to sue(pounce).~Peace Glenna~

Why don't we just post a bounty of say $50 for each ACLU head delivered.

Linda - I work in DOC. Just so you know mental health inmates are not being administered medication by the CO's, those meds are administered by nurses, who either work for DOC or UConn Mental Health. They are working with social workers and psychiatric staff on a daily basis, but you are right the job of the CO's is to monitor their behavior and protect them from harm, and that can get very stressful. Aftercare is provided for inmates when they reach the end of their sentence, but once out of DOC's custody, the inmate doesn't always accept that aftercare, stops taking his medication and his mental health level deteriorates. Shadow - your suggestion to ship them to another state, while understandable, probably will not happen, the last time we tried that and shipped inmates to Virginia the CT inmates caused all kinds of trouble down there and we got them back. The problem with shipping them out of state is you have to have the other state agree to accepting them, and that is not an easy task at all. Building more prisons is an option, but to build a mental health care facility would cost about $150 million and a "regular" prison would cost about $110 million, and people say build more prisons, but....no one wants in their community and it would take a few years to build them because of the security involved. A cheaper solution is more halfway houses for non-violent, low level inmates who are close to reaching the End of Sentence to ease overcrowding, but again, no one wants them in their community.

HAVE A SOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know those "WHITE COLLAR PRISONS" where they have tons of room?????????????????

hehe

NO MORE WHITE COLLAR PRISONS

INTEGRATE THE POOR SCUM WITH THE RICH SCUM I SAY, A CRIMINAL IS A CRIMINAL, I DO NOT SEE WHY WE MUST HAVE A SEPERATE HIGH CLASS PRISON THAT COSTS US BILLIONS MORE

do you??


and Jay good point, go see scum Rowland about why he closed our State Mental Institutions like Norwich to save the state 250mil so he could build Kraft a new stadium for the patriots for 250mil

Rowland should be doing life

what is the punishment for ripping off 5million people??? 1 year FU Judge that sentenced him!!!!!!!!!!!!! F U

and F U Rowland loking forward to meeting you ya pussy

I knew some guys that had rowland and his scum body guards try and pick their wives and girlfriends up, bought them drinks, only the women, and then made comments like why would these women be with these losers

what a scum

can;t wait to say to to your face

I fear no one rowland

how are you without your bodyguards?? pussy scumbag thief of the people

Visitor: Thanks for the comment/clarification. My thought was that option would be the quickest ... compared to building new prisons or finding 1/2-way houses.

Well, don't you CO's (here and in VA) have "ways" to deal with uncooperative inmates?

I don't know .... but I gotta believe some State could use a few extra bucks, and would take some of our inmates. If not, yes ... let's build more prisons and keep those "who make bad decisions" off our streets and out of society.

In the Holy Bible in the book of Mark in the 14th chapter and the 46 verse,it tells of how Jesus was arrested.now if jesus was arrested and if you read the whole story and he was obviously set up...Well the real deal criminals need a brand new prison,to stay while they learn where they went wrong and after much monotoring released and followed closley by Probation officers,or escorted back to the brand new prisons.with increase in population,everything has to accomidate,prisons too,common scence will tell you that...The alternative is there are more criminals on the outside than law complyant folk.it is not fair to the eldery,children,and feeble.~Peace Glenna~

Shadow, there are ways to deal with inmates, they're known as "tickets", where priviledges (phone, visits, mail) are taken away for certain periods of time (sometimes until the end of their sentence). They may not seem like much of a punishment, but to someone incarcerated those are the 3 most important things they have, all contact with the outside world. They're also put in Segregation for periods of time, depending on the offense. However, when you're doing 25+ years, some of these things are just an annoyance to the inmate, they don't really care. You can use some methods of restraint for unruly inmates, however, you have to be very careful how & when you use those methods, as they can be subject to lawsuits if the method was excessive, and the State really doesn't like going to court over excessive force. I'm sure the other States could use a few extra bucks - but they're dealing with their own idiots and probably don't want to take on more if it's not required.

Shadow - didn't want my last post to be so long....but as far as unruly inmates, the two pieces of scum in the Cheshire incident, had no serious discipline history while incarcerated, the crimes they committed also were not considered "violent" crimes, although the younger one doing burglaries at night while ppl were home would be considered violent, the thinking being that if you're prepared to burglarize a home while someone is home, you're prepared to do harm if necessary. They both served their required time, were not problem inmates and I don't fault anyone in Parole or Probation or the DOC for not seeing this coming, there were no indicators either of these two were considered "violent offenders", career criminals....yes...but violent...no. I guess seperately they were not very dangerous, but together they were lethal. I'm glad they've now made it a very serious crime if you burglarize a home while the residents are in the home, I'm only sorry the lives of 3 beautiful women had to be lost, in order for that to happen.

I have been reading the comments. It seems that some of you don't see the point here. The people that are supposed to be getting parole are NON-VIOLENT offenders. You know the ones who bounced a check because they needed food for their families,the dead beat dad who didn't want to pay his child support,the mom who stole clothes for her childrenwe are not talking about just the rapists and murderers the career criminals,we are also talking about people who made a mistake paid for it and are ready to give back to their communities.Ask yourselves,did you ever break the law? Did you ever drive home after having a few drinks? If you did, you broke the law,Driving while under the influence, you just didn't get caught.Remember these things, it could be you in one of our overcrowded prisons.